HIV Positive Performer in South FL

[mikesouth]

I don't have a whole lot of details on this one but it is better to be safe than sorry. First things first. The performer is from South Florida and he may have been shooting scenes in Las Vegas during Adult Expo. He is a male performer who works in straight scenes as well.

I am told he is represented by Fabscout. The problem is that most gay performers do not get tested regularly so when one crosses over into straight porn, as many do, even in L.A. the risk is enormous. He does a lot of work in South Florida both gay and straight primarily internet work.

Fabscout will not tell anyone who he is nor will the clinic that tested him, so as of now I don't have a name. If you worked with any Florida based male performers it would probably be a good idea to get retested over the next 60-days days and at least do condom only work until this gets straightened out or cleared up.

If anyone has any additional information please email me with it.

Thanks

[starpimps]

wow ill bump this up

[JFK]

Originally Posted by starpimps

wow ill bump this up

me too.........

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Fabscout will not tell anyone who he is nor will the clinic that tested him

What a fucking piece of shit.

[Martin]

Why would anybody work with a guy who would fuck a donkey if he had the chance. Sick fucker

[mikesouth]

in fabscouts and the clinics defense, disclosing his name is a direct violation of federal law (HIPA)

[MikeVega]

why would gay not test as much as straight .. that's the only thing i don't get

[Sebastian Sands]

Was good seeing you at AVN Mike, Randy says "hi".. will keep bumping this one. VERY important for all the shooters. Wouldn't want anyone to miss this and get themselves in more trouble.

Sebastian

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Thanks for the info...

This is f*cked up:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Fabscout will not tell anyone who he is nor will the clinic that tested him, so as of now I don't have a name.

If they are acknowledging that they know who it is, but are not alerting the industry, shame on them for all of the people they are putting at risk each day by not disclosing his name, and the names of other perfomers possibly exposed.

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[escorpio]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

in fabscouts and the clinics defense, disclosing his name is a direct violation of federal law (HIPA)

For the clinic, not for Fabscout.

[mikesouth]

Im also hearing rumors that he may be trying to work with old and or faked tests those have NOT been verified.

and I dont know why gay doesnt test I guess they just presume everyone has or will get it like the straight biz deals with herpes.

again I am looking for any info on this I can find that is credible and verifiable.

I have spoken with shooters and agents in S FL and most seem to know of this but dont have a clue which performer it is. Thats why Im skeptical about him trying to work with faked or old tests but do exercize due diligence.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by MikeSouth

in fabscouts and the clinics defense, disclosing his name is a direct violation of federal law (HIPA)

I believe with AIM you give up that right for the protection of the industry. Producers should not use talent that will not consent to this.

Originally Posted by MikeVega

why would gay not test as much as straight .. that's the only thing i don't get

Most gay productions use condoms.

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[Big_Red]

the poopy is about to hit the fan.

[BitAudioVideo]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

....The problem is that most gay performers do not get tested regularly....

dont they require testing and documentation within a set timeframe, same as with straight shoots?

[Kimmykim]

I'll help you keep the thread on the front page.

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by BitAudioVideo

dont they require testing and documentation within a set timeframe, same as with straight shoots?

No they do not. In L.A. they don't even test at all which is alaarming considering how many of the male performers in straight porn also do gay porn which also means they are probably gay or bi in real life....this is a big potential issue for those in L.A. and one of a lot of reasons why I refuse to work with anyone in that talent pool.

[BitAudioVideo]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

No they do not. In L.A. they don't even test at all which is alaarming considering how many of the male performers in straight porn also do gay porn which also means they are probably gay or bi in real life....this is a big potential issue for those in L.A. and one of a lot of reasons why I refuse to work with anyone in that talent pool.

thats wacked, my brother does 95% of his shoots in europe and i know he wont turn on the camera till he sees a valid recent test.. i think he still covers the testing costs.

i do the editing and maintain 2257 for nikkyblond, i always have a fresh test when they have additional models... not always if its just nikky and renato.

seems like a producer would insist to protect the investment.

[mikesouth]

I contacted AVN with this story hopefully they can get more info on the guy than I can.

they are on it.

[Lance69]

Bump,
One more reason I'm glad most productions in Vancouver are done with condoms and tests. There shouldn't even be a battery in the camera without a test. I know people will say that thats not 100% but it's still not a reason to be stupid. Things like this should be treated as attempted murder or at the very least reckless endangerment.

[Reeload]

To say this is a "sick gay fuck" is not fair. Plenty of Str8 guys to gay porn, mainly becuase they pay MUCH better, so if a str8 guy does gay porn and then goes back into the str8 industry with a disease (which is not likely becuase almost all gay producers use condoms) is it fair to blame the gay industry or the model?

Further more on the condom wearing; If you actually watch gay porn you will see that about 90% of the cocks are covered, and that safe sex is extremely importnat in the gay world. Ask anyone with half a brain.

[DutchTeenCash]

hmm time to bump

[xenilk]

Holy crap, that's bad news. :/

[Naughty-Pages]

Thanks for the heads up..

Ya know, i know they can't disclose it due to federal law, but if they know he's basically intentionally infecting people, that should be a loop hole they can use...

i.e.: a counselor has to keep what you say confidential, but if they know you are going to harm yourself or others, they can break that confidentiality...

[Bhunter]

dont they require testing and documentation within a set timeframe, same as with straight shoots?

Even if they have it it's still never 100% sure.
Recently I've did a shoot with a tested performer and ended with Clamydia.
This shit is never sure you don't know what other people do in their free time, or even worser their partners.

[Happysucks]

Originally Posted by Bhunter

Recently I've did a shoot with a tested performer and ended with Clamydia.

Meaning... You look at a test, one with an open window for error, trust the results and fuck unprotected.

Kind of a Darren James situation.

[mikesouth]

a tad more info.

apparently fabscout has some association with Cash Models so the guy may have been booking straight scenes through Cash Models

[Hunter_ST]

Always bad... people gotta be careful out there.

[Bhunter]

Originally Posted by Hunter_ST

Always bad... people gotta be careful out there.

You cannot be carefull enough.
Some incubation times can take up to 3 months especialy for HiV and Syphilis.
In Holland it's granted to test you self each fouw weeks.

Now guess what happend when the next day I was doing the next shoot not knowing yet I've been infected and the day after another one. The girl from the second day had the next day also a shoot. Still not know knowing what she had.

Well it's kinda shitty stuff.

[_Richard_]

bump

R

[Gaybucks]

The better gay studios do, in fact, test their models. Some, like us, shoot only safer sex (condoms, no cum in mouth or on face, various other precautions) AND test models.

Our own protocol requires that models be tested after they arrive to work with us, and I know a number of other studios that follow a similar policy.

I suspect it's mostly the smaller, sleazier players who are irresponsible with this sort of thing, and hopefully it will come back to bite them in the ass.

As for the scouting agency not revealing the information... all that needs to happen is for someone (a model potentially injured or a studio that worked with them and is concerned about its reputation) to file a lawsuit, and the information will come out at discovery. But if the scout knows and isn't revealing the info to studios potentially hiring that model, that behavior is despicable, and probably (in California) criminal.

[Big Red Machine]

I hope all the best to my friends in Florida. I hope this guy has taken upon himself to sit on the bench.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I don't have a whole lot of details on this one but it is better to be safe than sorry. First things first. The performer is from South Florida and he may have been shooting scenes in Las Vegas during Adult Expo. He is a male performer who works in straight scenes as well.

I am told he is represented by Fabscout.

So you don't know anything and are just throwing out accusations and inuendo

The problem is that most gay performers do not get tested regularly so when one crosses over into straight porn, as many do, even in L.A. the risk is enormous.

You are so ignorant. It's STRAIGHT models that start out as Gay for pay because they make more money, once they get established and/or connected they transition to straight porn. Gay studios are fanatic about testing.

He does a lot of work in South Florida both gay and straight primarily internet work.

Fabscout will not tell anyone who he is nor will the clinic that tested him, so as of now I don't have a name. If you worked with any Florida based male performers it would probably be a good idea to get retested over the next 60-days days and at least do condom only work until this gets straightened out or cleared up.

So on your hunch based on rumor and inuendo you want everyone to retest their Florida models? Part of being a responsible producer is having models tested and using protection, no matter what side of the industry you're on.

I don't know any of the people involved here, though I have heard of this "fabscout" before.

I think you're being irresponsible spreading fear on boards based on no facts, and insulting the Gay side of the industry with statements about practices that are not accurate or representative of the work we do.

And to put this as "breaking news" on your lame home page is a joke LOL You've already alienated yourself from others in the industry local to you, and people on this board, now you're going for the Gay side to stir... pathetic.

[NaughtyRob]

Originally Posted by Big Red Machine

I hope all the best to my friends in Florida. I hope this guy has taken upon himself to sit on the bench.

Agreed.

Bump for this to get noticed.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Reeload

To say this is a "sick gay fuck" is not fair. Plenty of Str8 guys to gay porn, mainly becuase they pay MUCH better, so if a str8 guy does gay porn and then goes back into the str8 industry with a disease (which is not likely becuase almost all gay producers use condoms) is it fair to blame the gay industry or the model?

Further more on the condom wearing; If you actually watch gay porn you will see that about 90% of the cocks are covered, and that safe sex is extremely importnat in the gay world. Ask anyone with half a brain.

Straight guys doing gay porn?


Uhh.... ok.


If you're doing gay porn, how can you consider yourself straight? How can a REAL straight man get a boner from another man's ass or mouth? No fucking way

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Straight guys doing gay porn?


Uhh.... ok.


If you're doing gay porn, how can you consider yourself straight? How can a REAL straight man get a boner from another man's ass or mouth? No fucking way

Gay guys doing straight porn?

Uhh.... ok

If you're doing straight porn, how can you consider yourself Gay? How can a REAL Gay man get a boner from a womans pussy, ass, or mouth?

[XXXWriterDude]

First of all, was it made clear whether the model in question was shooting the scene with or without a condom while he was in Vegas? Condoms are only 85 percent effective, true, but let's not start making people panic until we know all the facts.

Secondly, it is worth noting that about 85 to 90 percent of the gay adult industry REQUIRES that its model use condoms during filming. This is how we get around the testing; we actually promote safe sex in our videos, unlike a lot of straight producers that still don't.

Additionally, there are lots of gay-for-pay performers who identify as straight, and have been for a very long time. Everyone knows that at least one MAJOR icon of male heterosexuality (whose name I will not publish since he's been known to throw a hissy fit whenever it's brought up) started out in gay porn under a different name, and took some MIGHTY big ones up his butt like a champ. Bigger than I've ever taken.

The money in gay porn is much better for male performers. And with nudie girl mags, Viagra and dick injections, performing in gay videos has become even more frequent for straight models. If you guys paid your models better, maybe they wouldn't have to keep doing gay movies.

[Pinacolada]

He is fucked up!!!

[Romeo GaySearch4Sex]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Most gay productions use condoms.

ADG Webmaster

A lot of gay productions use condoms, but unfortunetly there has been a move to bareback (non-condom, often with ejaulation into the anus) and even those bareback performers don't get tested

I think another reason why gay performers don't get tested is because they often work a lot less than straight performers.. Maybe just 1-2 times a month. Why that means they shouldn't get tested is beyond me... but I dont shoot scenes.

[Romeo GaySearch4Sex]

Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude

Additionally, there are lots of gay-for-pay performers who identify as straight, and have been for a very long time.

It's true! Ive read interviews with gay performers (who are gay in real life) and will mention crazy examples where their co-star is straight and how they will use straight porn to get their dick hard.

Recently, there was this crazy guy in Denver who murdered his boss, and it was revealed he was a straight guy who had worked in gay porn a few times. According to one of his co-stars, who was part asian, the straight guy picked him because he had an asian girlfriend!!! isn't that fucked up?

To other points to mention:
- a lot of straight guys working in porn don't bottom in anal sex, only top, which has lower rates of HIV/AIDS infections
- A lot of straight performers work in transsexual porn, and people don't bring up the HIV/AIDS issue in the same way they do with gay porn.

I think everyone should get tested, and the straight performers should remember its only SAFER NOT SAFE sex... its still risky to fuck for a living!

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude

Additionally, there are lots of gay-for-pay performers who identify as straight, and have been for a very long time. Everyone knows that at least one MAJOR icon of male heterosexuality (whose name I will not publish since he's been known to throw a hissy fit whenever it's brought up) started out in gay porn under a different name, and took some MIGHTY big ones up his butt like a champ. Bigger than I've ever taken.

Let's see Mike South started this thread - would the person you referred to have a last name on the compass opposite of Mike?

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[boneprone]

Oh Shit!

I Hope He Wasnt At Our Bukkake Party!

Thank God We had Panchos on.

[topshelfdesign]

bad shit!

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude

Additionally, there are lots of gay-for-pay performers who identify as straight, and have been for a very long time. Everyone knows that at least one MAJOR icon of male heterosexuality (whose name I will not publish since he's been known to throw a hissy fit whenever it's brought up) started out in gay porn under a different name, and took some MIGHTY big ones up his butt like a champ. Bigger than I've ever taken.

The money in gay porn is much better for male performers. And with nudie girl mags, Viagra and dick injections, performing in gay videos has become even more frequent for straight models. If you guys paid your models better, maybe they wouldn't have to keep doing gay movies.

Dude, if you can get it up to pound a man in the ass, or to suck a cock, or get your dick sucked by a man and look down and enjoy it, or get pounded in the ass.... you are fucking gay


If I chose to star in porn, I sure as fuck would not do gay porn, no matter how much $$$ I was offered. Shit, even if they offered me a million per scene, first off, I couldn't possibly want to do it, second off, if I was forced to do it, I couldn't get it up for another dude's ass. Probably the same way a gay guy feels about a woman, just the thought of it feels wrong.


Flat out, you can't say you're a straight man if you fuck, suck, or get sucked and fucked by other men. You're at least bisexual. At the very least.


Oh, and I remember when I was like 19 and someone told me Peter North did gay porn, I laughed and said no way. Then she went to her gay brother's room and grabbed a DVD. I still said no way. She put it on, and I grimaced as Peter North was in some sort of classroom setting(I think, didn't watch much) and he got rammed in the ass by some BIG HOMO COCK.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by boneprone

Oh Shit!

I Hope He Wasnt At Our Bukkake Party!

Thank God We had Panchos on.

Fuck man I am still so pissed off at you, you could have told me that the pancho I was wearing was used, and I put it on inside out... I looked like I walked through about 50 fucking spider webs when I took it off

[DWB]

Is anyone really surprised?

After Darrin James it was biz as usual in no time at all, no reason to think it wouldn't happen again.

[RhondaN]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

in fabscouts and the clinics defense, disclosing his name is a direct violation of federal law (HIPA)

I deal with HIPA issues a lot for my employees. The talent agency can have their artist sign a waiver where they give up some of their HIPA privacy. This should be done before they take them on as a client.

[EscortBiz]

no doubt this is very fucked up but at the same time for the amount of porn shot the industry must be doing something right because this is not that common at all, heck every industry has its dangers its fucked up and I hope not many got infected.

[XXXWriterDude]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Dude, if you can get it up to pound a man in the ass, or to suck a cock, or get your dick sucked by a man and look down and enjoy it, or get pounded in the ass.... you are fucking gay

Not true at all, bud. I can name you at least 5,000,000 gay men who have--at one time or another--had sex with a woman, and they are by no means considered to be straight--OR bisexual. Lots of straight men have at one time or another fucked around with another dude, whether in their teens or when they were drunk or after they got divorced from their wife and thought "Awww, fuck it. I'm sick of women. Let a faggot suck my dick for a change. I hear they're better at it anyway." LOL!

You can't really define someone's sexuality by who they've had sex with. People can take part in homosexual behavior without being homosexual. Homosexuality and heterosexuality are socially constructed identities that people claim to give themselves a point of reference, and they can still feel as if they are straight (or gay) even if they have at some time or other taken part in sexual behavior that was opposite.

Gertude Stein said it best: "In the dark, a mouth is a mouth is a mouth." LOL

Oh, and I remember when I was like 19 and someone told me Peter North did[ gay porn, I laughed and said no way. Then she went to her gay brother's room and grabbed a DVD. I still said no way. She put it on, and I grimaced as Peter North was in some sort of classroom setting(I think, didn't watch much) and he got rammed in the ass by some BIG HOMO COCK.

Cocks aren't homo. People are.

And I bet if you were to ask Mr. North how he identified sexually, he would tell you he was heterosexual. And he'd probably kick your ass if you challenged him on it.

[XXXWriterDude]

Thought I would post this here.

This was posted on the GayWideWebmasters.com board by Howard, the agent who is said to know the identity of this alleged model:

OK everyone.. I just got wind of all of this......2 issues... #1 there are only a few studios that test....#2 I am NOT associated with Cash Models and #3 I supplied NO models for ANY shoots in Vegas at all...My guys were there to DANCE at ChiChi;s party and at Hustlaball which they did........and did a VERY good job of. I am not sure of who Mike South is or what his association to any of my competitors or studios I dont deal with (CSH and CV), but everyone that knows me, knows I deal FAIR AND SQUARE... this is too small of a community to play games and MY GUYS are more importamt to me than a few buck here or there.. I am hurt and saddened by this bit of BS...but the guys on the boards that know me, and the studios that know me, know I wouldnt risk my guys in ANY of the Unsafe crap... Wow...deep stuff whoever this Mike South guy is,,,,,,, I handle GAY models, yes every now and then a Straight one.. but all testing is done by BioCollections on my Straight Models.

Whoever started this thread of the GFY board is obviously someone who is very upset


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